1/6/97 9:46:13 PM Opening ÒChat Log 1/6/97Ó for recording. JW89777777 : dude SoulzMate : JW8977777, Hi there....the Ice Skating forum will start in about 7 minutes. :) SoulzMate : <----------dudette. ;) SoulzMate : Hi MyBrian....the forum will start in about 4 minutes! :) MyBrian : Hi, I finally got on line it took forever SoulzMate : I started at about five minutes to nine....didn't get online until about 9:25!!! MyBrian : I guess it did'nt take me so long only 15 minutes. SoulzMate : I live in New York City......everything takes longer, here. MyBrian : I'm in Florida. How the weather there? SoulzMate : It's been in the forties.....we've only had a few flakes of snow. No big deal. SoulzMate : Last week we got up into the sixties one day. That's unheard of! SoulzMate : HRBuddy, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) SoulzMate : NBascom837, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) SoulzMate : Sharonmja, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) SoulzMate : LadyJane26, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) LadyJane26 : Thanks SoulzMate : The topic tonight is "The Championship Series," so hop in whenever you are ready. :^) Sharonmja : Hi, Thankyou. MyBrian : I'd love the sisties it was 85 here today SoulzMate : ALEXDK, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) NBascom837 : has anyone ever tried the new salomon equipe line of racing boots? SoulzMate : MyBrian, you are breaking my heart! :( SoulzMate : NBascom837, If you check the schedule outside, you will note that the Ice Skating fans.... SoulzMate : Have this room reserved on Monday nights. We will be outta here by Midnite, EST. :^) MyBrian : Come down and get some sun NBascom837 : Well I'm happy for you, stupid moron SoulzMate : Nah....I'm six months along...I'm thrilled it's not summer. ;) MyBrian : The winter tour of toc will be here soon:) SoulzMate : NBascom837, awwwww.....calling a pregnant woman names isn't nice. :( SoulzMate : Amelia B, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) Amellia B : HI SoulzMate : The topic tonight is "The Championship Series," so hop in whenever you are ready. :^) SoulzMate : RIVAPAT, you snuck in without my seeing you! SoulzMate : RIVAPAT, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) RIVAPAT : what can I say--I am sneaky, Kimber SoulzMate : I guess a good photographer would have to be! :) RIVAPAT : it doesn't hurt! SoulzMate : The topic tonight is "The Championship Series," so hop in whenever you are ready. :^) SoulzMate : Who does everyone look at to win the various titles at the Championship series final? SoulzMate : Sk8fan9664, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) SoulzMate : The topic tonight is "The Championship Series," so hop in whenever you are ready. :^) MyBrian : Why don't you start Kimber SoulzMate : Mens....gotta go with our Todd. :) SoulzMate : Ladies, Michelle. Sk8fan9664 : What about Elvis SoulzMate : Pairs.....either K&D or M&S SoulzMate : Dance....K&O MyBrian : He was great the other night on too hot to skate SoulzMate : "Too Hot to Skate" was taped in August or September, MyBrian. SoulzMate : DellaG, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) SoulzMate : Canadude5, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) MyBrian : But it was on tv the other night SoulzMate : The topic tonight is "The Championship Series," so hop in whenever you are ready. :^) SoulzMate : CDNSK8, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) DellaG : Is the Championship finals before or after Worlds? SoulzMate : MyBrian, yes......they taped it ages ago and just saved it until January. :) CDNSK8 : Hello Everyone, what is the topic tonight? Sk8fan9664 : before SoulzMate : Della....before. :) SoulzMate : The topic tonight is "The Championship Series," so hop in whenever you are ready. :^) DellaG : Thanks, wasn't sure. MyBrian : Yes and he was good Boboli1024 : hi SoulzMate : I think Larry here has tickets....he could remind us of the dates again. :) CDNSK8 : Anyone planning to go to Hamilton for the final? SoulzMate : Boboli1024, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) Canadude5 : yyyyyyup Sk8fan9664 : yes, I have tickets Boboli1024 : Ice skating? Canadude5 : Feb 28 to march 2 RIVAPAT : I want to go to hamilton! SoulzMate : <----has no tickets for nuttin. :-P SoulzMate : Who is everyone rooting for, again? I'm the only one who's said so. CDNSK8 : ELVIS! MyBrian : Nothings in Florida except toc and sand Sharonmja : Pairs - Meno & Sand Canadude5 : wotzel/steuer SoulzMate : CDNSK8, are you from Canada? :) Canadude5 : lipinski Sk8fan9664 : Elvis Amellia B : Todd DellaG : I guess I am rooting for 1. Michelle Kwan, Meno and Sand, Todd Eldredge, dance, not sure Canadude5 : <--------thought he was the only one bearing the maple leaf :( MyBrian : Todd SoulzMate : It's great that the Yanks have so many people at this competition...remember 93, when we got zippo? Canadude5 : women's will be boring, actually 3 amerks and 3 russians SoulzMate : Amerks? :D Sk8fan9664 : I agree Canadude SoulzMate : Della, have you had any word on Chen Lu's condition? Canadude5 : and we have seen that irina only has to land 2 triples to get 5.8's MyBrian : Are we Amerks or Yankees? DellaG : There was some articles that came out in China that I can't download, but someone DellaG : wrote about it CDNSK8 : Could I change the subject just for one moment? Do anyone have results from JAPAN OPEN? DellaG : She is doing ok and planning at being at Worlds. Canadude5 : irina is as overmarked as kwiatkowski is undermarked SoulzMate : Jnikolenko, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) Canadude5 : markova has a cool long, though Jnikolenko : Hello everyone! :O) Canadude5 : maybe we'll see maria do the 3flip/3toe in the short MyBrian : Hi Canadude5 : hi jnikolenko DellaG : Japan - you mean the Honda thing? CDNSK8 : YES SoulzMate : GG0m1, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) GGOm1 : Hello SoulzMate : CHBRON, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) SoulzMate : The topic tonight is "The Championship Series," so hop in whenever you are ready. :^) SoulzMate : I haven't seen Meno and Sand's programs as yet...what are they skating to? GGOm1 : Can someone explain why there are 6 ladies and men, but only 4 pairs and 5 dance? Canadude5 : saw their long at one champ event....can't remember but it's general classical stuff MyBrian : I thought they were both hurt Canadude5 : GGOm1...there is a reason for that Canadude5 : i think it's based on how many skaters can skate in one flight DellaG : They are better now, and will be in the Championship finals. SoulzMate : MyBrian, they were both hurt at the beginning of the season with wrist injuries, but have since healed SoulzMate : Toepick220, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) Toepick220 : hello everyone DellaG : They have won quite a few things lately, doing really well, with side by side triples. SoulzMate : The topic tonight is "The Championship Series," so hop in whenever you are ready. :^) MyBrian : Great Canadude5 : 6 singles, 4 pairs and 5 dance...that's how many you see in each flight Canadude5 : they don't want to slow down the competition by creating more flights SoulzMate : I know Larry disagrees with me, but I think this could be their year! ) RIVAPAT : Does anyone know what happened to K&D at Russian nationals...were they just disastrous and Canadude5 : who...meno and sand, kimber? SoulzMate : EasterC, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) GGOm1 : Okay, thanks :) SoulzMate : Larry, yep! :) RIVAPAT : has anyone seen a lot of them--I know they have been very hot and cold. EasterC : Thanks... DellaG : I think it could be too. M&S have beaten the World Champs and look really good. Canadude5 : i wonder how they did it when there were 7 women last Canadude5 : year in france? must have been a few collisions SoulzMate : Della, they've beaten a lot of strong teams this year, no? Didn't they also beat S&N? Canadude5 : hey, kimber, i don't disagree with you Canadude5 : any one of those four teams can win worlds...this will be Canadude5 : such an amazing year for pairs SoulzMate : Larry...it's okay to disagree with me. :) Didn't you say you were looking at the Germans? DellaG : Yes, they did. I think they just won the Pairs in Japan in the Open. Toepick220 : did everyone see on tv yesterday about Natalia_______and her husband joining as pair team Canadude5 : if mandy and ingo don't win, i'm rooting for the amerks CDNSK8 : Hey Kimber, do you know anything about the Japan event this past weekend? Toepick220 : they watched the cutting edge, he is a hockey player Sk8fan9664 : I want Mandy & Ingo to win too Canadude5 : yes, toepick...he's a brute SoulzMate : Toepick220, nope....missed it....I've missed everything lately. I was bummed. :( RIVAPAT : I saw natalia--not to mention the photos of she and Artur that now have her husband pasted RIVAPAT : on them! Canadude5 : mandy told me how they picked their music for the long GGOm1 : i didn't see it - our station didn't run it :( Sk8fan9664 : how? DellaG : CDN: I know that Michelle won in Japan, but I can't remember who else. You can find Toepick220 : they won't work DellaG : that information at the USFSA site. CDNSK8 : Thanks DellaG! Toepick220 : did everyone see too hot to skate Canadude5 : well, toepick...it will take him quite awhile to learn jumps especially MyBrian : Yes, I watched it SoulzMate : CDN: Ilia Kulik won mens....I *think* G&P won dance. Don't remember pairs. SoulzMate : The topic tonight is "The Championship Series," so hop in whenever you are ready. :^) EasterC : Yes I saw TOO HOT Canadude5 : but at least they have something that they can do Canadude5 : together...so it will be a great hobby for him and her CHBRON : meno & sands won pairs GGOm1 : have you guys already discussed who's going to win mens in the Champ. Series? Toepick220 : that brother and sister team looked great SoulzMate : GGOm1, it's an ongoing discussion. :) Canadude5 : well, it is in canada, so elvis will have a big following GGOm1 : Who's the frontrunner? :) MyBrian : What did you think of Oksana on too hot Toepick220 : they are a mix between calla and rocky and isabel and loyd Sk8fan9664 : They were great Toepick EasterC : She needs a couple more years to mature... Canadude5 : and todd doesn't seem to be mended yet Canadude5 : who's this?? the stieglers? SoulzMate : The topic tonight is "The Championship Series," so hop in whenever you are ready. :^) DellaG : Just looked - at the Honda in Japan - Meno & Sand won Pairs GGOm1 : Yeah, I was wondering about Todd...he was doing so well... EasterC : oksana didn't seem to have her heart in it RIVAPAT : Is Elvis still doing the same long progam that he did at the team competition or did he r MyBrian : The Steiglers were fearless RIVAPAT : rework it a bit? SoulzMate : Larry, having Worlds in Canada didn't help Elvis last year. ;) :::ducking::: SoulzMate : SANDSONIC, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) Canadude5 : oksana is a write off for this year, guys...we should stick Canadude5 : on champions series until 11 pm Toepick220 : todd is in great shape MyBrian : Oksana could'nt even do a single that night Canadude5 : s'ok, kimber...no claws tonight CHBRON : I'd bet on SANDSONIC : Thank you, Kimber! Toepick220 : i am not a fan of hers and never was SoulzMate : The topic tonight is "The Championship Series," so hop in whenever you are ready. :^) CHBRON : I'd bet on Todd & Michelle in the Championship series EasterC : neither am I Canadude5 : you miss your combo and yer done...unless you are irina.... MyBrian : Me neither Canadude5 : mike weiss should be in the final along with zaggy GGOm1 : I don't know about Todd...but definitely Michelle Canadude5 : dmitrenko and yagudin should be out DellaG : I would bet on Michelle, but Todd didn't do too well in Japan. Hope his ankle is better. Toepick220 : what about dan hollander? EasterC : Michelle has grown up so much RIVAPAT : So is Elvis doing the same long program where he seemed to be standing alot or not-anyone? SoulzMate : Larry....I don't get the fascination with Irina either.....it's not like she has brilliant technique. EasterC : did you see her in TOo Hot to skate? CHBRON : did Dan even make the finals? GGOm1 : i like yagudin, but i'd rather see zaggy SoulzMate : Toepick, Dan H won't be at the finals. :( RIVAPAT : Michelle is great technically and improved so much artistically--the only knock i have is Canadude5 : i just want to grab irina and straighten her out.... Canadude5 : she skates like a hockey player Toepick220 : that is too bad :( MyBrian : Who is Zaggy? SoulzMate : Larry....a hockey player in feathers. RIVAPAT : that this year's long reminds me of last year's--not too versatile at times Canadude5 : yeah, kimber...just like craig shepherd! Canadude5 : yeah, riva, but let me say this EasterC : That was bad Toepick220 : what about tonia k.? Canadude5 : michelle came such a long way last year GGOm1 : Zaggy was the European Champion, wasn't he? Canadude5 : it's tough to expect her to make the same kind of leap this year DellaG : Actually, for Michelle, I think that this year's long is a mistake, but it may be late to DellaG : change. SoulzMate : Tonia K will be there....she's had an excellent season, as has Tara Lapinski. MyBrian : Is that his real name? RIVAPAT : OH I agree last year she improved leaps and bounds over the previous year's, but it just Canadude5 : no....judges LOVE michelle...she won't have a problem Canadude5 : <------ totally believes in tara Toepick220 : i am happy for her..she is a great skater and has come a long way RIVAPAT : seems like last year's long--and I know the Judges love MIchelle--this is just an opinion of DellaG : Your are right, they do love her. SoulzMate : Well, with Chen Lu out of the competition, there's really no one to challenge Michelle. GGOm1 : No - it's Viacheslav Zagorudnik (I'm not spelling that right either, I don't think) - GGOm1 : Zaggy's easier to spell :) RIVAPAT : a fan who likes a little versatility in programs Toepick220 : i would like to see something different from michelle SoulzMate : Athaena7, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) SoulzMate : Athaena7, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) Canadude5 : GGOm1..first name spelled right...last name is Zagorodniuk MyBrian : Yipes! RIVAPAT : And your right Kimber there really is no challenge unless catastrophe strikes michelle in Canadude5 : toepick...be sure we will see something different next year Toepick220 : hopefully DellaG : Don't rule Chen Lu out yet. RIVAPAT : the short. Irina just can't cut it, even if she does get generous marks for what she does RIVAPAT : or doesn't do Canadude5 : frank is like the scotvolds...way too many tricks up their Canadude5 : sleeves to sit pat from season to season DellaG : Oops, sorry, she's not there. SoulzMate : I'm evil.....I'd like to see the US ladies sweep the Russians. So "Cold Warish." ;D SoulzMate : SKHazen, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) SoulzMate : The topic tonight is "The Championship Series," so hop in whenever you are ready. :^) Athaena7 : Id love to see that!! SKHazen : Hi, all. Toepick220 : i would to soulzMate....that would be awesome DellaG : Kimber, don't thing we will see an American sweep. Canadude5 : irina could land on her butt in the short and finish ahead of Canadude5 : tonia even if she skated clean SoulzMate : Della, I don't either, but it would be nice. :) RIVAPAT : I would actually love to see Maria B. skate a nice long program...she can be a very DellaG : Ah, to dream. RIVAPAT : beautiful skater and I would like to see TOnia skate cleanly Canadude5 : happy to see tonia added the sow this year SoulzMate : I'd love to see a sweep at Worlds, too...this is the first time since 91 that we've been deep enough. SKHazen : Canadue5: I think you over-rate Irina -- and underrate Tonia. DellaG : Tonia can skate cleanly, but for some reason, the judges don't like her. Toepick220 : tonia has a great program when skated cleanly..nice presentation on the ice SoulzMate : Steven, he's being sarcastic. :) Canadude5 : SKHazen...no i don't...i say these things tongue in cheek... Canadude5 : i am complaining that the judges overrate irina Toepick220 : just like they did oksana SKHazen : OK -- but that suggests some sarcasm aimed at the judges. I do not accept the notion that DellaG : I think Irina has had a lot of problems this year in landing her jumps, but the deductions DellaG : don't seem to be there. Athaena7 : dont get me started on Oksana!!! SKHazen : the judges keep her out of the hunt. SoulzMate : No Oksana! She's not at the Championship Series final! :D RIVAPAT : The judges really seem to look at Tonia and think you peaked too late and were not giving Toepick220 : sense you don't like her either Canadude5 : no not at all steven...irina has been unfairly overmarked this year Canadude5 : and tonia undermarked RIVAPAT : you the marks no matter what you do...I look for Tara to far outscore her Athaena7 : I would like to see Todd and Jeni shock everyone!!! CHBRON : me too DellaG : They have a very good chance, Athaena. SKHazen : "unfairly overmarked" -- have you seen the protocols and come to that conclusion? Athaena7 : I know, i think it is great! SoulzMate : Josecho, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) RIVAPAT : But Meno and Sand will have to skate flawlessy for the judges to place them above the RIVAPAT : Russians Toepick220 : i hate when judges leave room for the other skaters...that is cheating the one that just Toepick220 : performed DellaG : They have already placed ahead of the Russians this year. Athaena7 : I agree SoulzMate : RIVAPAT, they've beaten a lot of Russians already this season. :) Josecho : hello, we anybody here a skiing expert? SoulzMate : MWisnie584, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) SoulzMate : Josecho, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) RIVAPAT : Who are the pairs--M&S, K&D, W&S and is it Eltsova and Bushkov SoulzMate : The topic tonight is "The Championship Series," so hop in whenever you are ready. :^) CHBRON : i guess it will just come down to which pair skates cleanly Josecho : ooopss.. this is only ice skating? GGOm1 : Are tickets still available for the final? (I'm asking for a friend) SoulzMate : Josecho, The topic tonight is "The Championship Series," so hop in whenever you are ready. :^) RIVAPAT : I know they have beaten the RUssians, but they judging seems to get more traditional the SoulzMate : Josecho, If you check the schedule outside, you will note that the Ice Skating fans.... SoulzMate : Have this room reserved on Monday nights. We will be outta here by Midnite, EST. :^) Josecho : thanks SoulzMate : Josecho, have a nice evening! :) RIVAPAT : larger and more prestigious the competition--I'm think Meno and Sand have improved creatly CHBRON : they will have to land the side by side triples, though Toepick220 : they are wonderful to watch...i hope they win RIVAPAT : this year in lots of area--speed, jumping, etc. but it will be interesting to see what DellaG : Todd seems to have improved his stamina, and the triples really help. RIVAPAT : happens if several teams are clean SoulzMate : CHBRON, they've been landing SBS toe loops this season! :) Toepick220 : todd is awesome...he beat elvis the other day Athaena7 : then the judges will probably mark in thier usual *political* fasion SoulzMate : RIVAPAT, if they can get past the short at both the Final and Worlds, they'll have a great shot. CHBRON : i saw one competition on tv where todd cheated on his, but they got good marks GGOm1 : when? RIVAPAT : that's what I was saying or trying to if the Russians and Meno and Sand are clean--I don't DellaG : Yes, when did Todd beat Elvis, recently? SoulzMate : Athaena7, Todd and Jenni's problem in the past has been the short program, not the judges. :D Athaena7 : yes RIVAPAT : know if they will get the marks to win--just politics, you're right SoulzMate : Dbtigger, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) MWisnie584 : I still like Elvis better than Todd Toepick220 : during the countdown to nagana, japan----i think that is the name of the comp SoulzMate : It's hard to win worlds when you are in fifth after the short! GGOm1 : continent's cup? Athaena7 : true Toepick220 : elvis' program needs a lot of work SKHazen : So: are we talking about judging or the Grand Prix Final? DellaG : That competition was in early October, but just shown. So, don't count Elvis out. RIVAPAT : The bottom line for pairs is that no team is far superior to another--5 or so teams that are Toepick220 : yeah..that is it RIVAPAT : about the same, so anything can happen Dbtigger : I personally find Elvis somewhat boring to watch; Todd has more substance to his skating. SoulzMate : Grand Prix final, Steven! Who do you like this year? Athaena7 : however i have seen teams that didnt deserve to pull beter scores in the long! MWisnie584 : Is anyone here going to the finals in Hamilton Canada Toepick220 : but still if todd was in excellent shape then...elvis has a lot of wok to do to compete Athaena7 : 1/6/97 10:34:10 PM Opening ÒChat Log 1/6/97#2Ó for recording. when jeni and Todd went clean! SKHazen : Very hopeful Todd will pull it off but he seems to be having his troubles recently. RIVAPAT : Yes the Grand Prix...what does everyone think of Elvis' long program CHBRON : elvis is not too artistic, I like to see something more than just jumps, jumps, jumps SKHazen : At least he managed to come back from an awful SP at Honda Cup. SoulzMate : Athaena7, those teams had SBS triples and they skated in the final flight...keep that in mind. :) Sk8fan9664 : I am MWISN Toepick220 : everyone does...hopefull it will work out for him SoulzMate : Sk8fan9664, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) DellaG : Steve, how did Todd Finish? SKHazen : 3rd Athaena7 : I love the music, but i think the choreography needs to move more Dbtigger : I agree with you CHBRON regarding Elvis lacking artistic content. MWisnie584 : Hi sk8fan, do you have good seats DellaG : Moved up from 5th, not bad. Toepick220 : i agree too RIVAPAT : In past year's M&S were given lower scores for cleaner program because of no side-by-side SKHazen : Ilya 1st, Philippe 2nd -- but no clean FSs Sk8fan9664 : Yeah, I have front row centre. Are you going MWisne SoulzMate : I love the "ID4" music....when I saw the movie last summer, I knew some skater would swipe it. :) RIVAPAT : triples, a lack of speed/flow and they seemed to lose steam at the end of #;s, but they seem GGOm1 : Are seats still available? MWisnie584 : Yea, I have front row center, It should be great SoulzMate : SGskate, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) SoulzMate : The topic tonight is "The Championship Series," so hop in whenever you are ready. :^) Athaena7 : i know....I wnted to give it to a student..... RIVAPAT : to have worked on all these problems a great deal SGskate : Hi all Toepick220 : hello Sk8fan9664 : Wow, I wander if they are close to mine MWisnie584 : I think seats are still available, I have heard it advertised, and I live near Hamilton CHBRON : hello Sk8fan9664 : I mean wonder MWisnie584 : I wander too lol Athaena7 : hehehe RIVAPAT : I agree that Elvis long program lacked something artistically and he stood around a lot--I GGOm1 : Oh, okay, I thought it was sold out - I've got a friend who wants to go. Sk8fan9664 : Where do you wander too SKHazen : MW / Sk8fan -- I may be there, too. RIVAPAT : hope he has reworked it a bit Toepick220 : yes he did SoulzMate : GoodyGA, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) RIVAPAT : good SoulzMate : The topic tonight is "The Championship Series," so hop in whenever you are ready. :^) SGskate : Where is everybody going? GoodyGa : Hello room ! Athaena7 : hello MWisnie584 : Where are you from skhazen SGskate : To the chamionship, I presume FSKFORCE : Hello all Sk8fan9664 : Where are you from MWisnie? Athaena7 : I am most interested to see the Ice Dance results SoulzMate : Yes, Sherri....the Series Final. :) SoulzMate : FSKFORCE, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) GGOm1 : I want K&O to win! FSKFORCE : What is the Topic? CHBRON : at least G&P won't be there SoulzMate : The topic tonight is "The Championship Series," so hop in whenever you are ready. :^) RIVAPAT : I really like K&O's free dance and their outfits are perfect for the number! SKHazen : MW-sorry, I got got in an illegal IM. I'm from So Cal. SoulzMate : LOL! :D FSKFORCE : Hmmm SoulzMate : Steven, kiss and tell, kiss and tell. :D FSKFORCE : Should Todd be there Toepick220 : what about punzulin and swallow? GGOm1 : I love their tango too FSKFORCE : or was that discussed? MWisnie584 : That would be an expensive trip, a long way to go SKHazen : Kiss, yes; tell, NEVER! Toepick220 : are they still competing SoulzMate : KurtSkate, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) KurtSkate : Hi Kimber!! SoulzMate : FSKFORCE, yes....Todd will be there, barring disaster. KurtSkate : No Jaime tonight? SGskate : P& S won't win over K&O, IMHO DellaG : P & S are still competing. SoulzMate : The topic tonight is "The Championship Series," so hop in whenever you are ready. :^) Athaena7 : Has anyone notices that punsalan and swallow seem to always use Latin music? SoulzMate : Jaime is having mouse problems! =8-0 SoulzMate : SkateJoy, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) SoulzMate : The topic tonight is "The Championship Series," so hop in whenever you are ready. :^) Toepick220 : no i was just wondering if they were in it SoulzMate : Tom b 66, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) SoulzMate : Dustpan440, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) SKHazen : Della: I must have missed something. P&S aren't in the Final are they? Dbtigger : I think that P & S are very appealing on the ice; very attractive couple. CHBRON : no they aren't SoulzMate : P&S are not in the final. :( GoodyGa : I wish them well this season though.. Toepick220 : one year they used more of a clowny piece of music...they have a great personality on theice Sk8fan9664 : So MWisnie, where do you live? GGOm1 : I like P&S's La Vie en Rose Tom b 66 : Has anybody skied in tahoe Athaena7 : i thought they were ? sorry my mistake RIVAPAT : YEs, they are an attractive couple and are steadily improving SoulzMate : Tom b 66, If you check the schedule outside, you will note that the Ice Skating fans.... SoulzMate : Have this room reserved on Monday nights. We will be outta here by Midnite, EST. :^) MWisnie584 : I live in Copetown, it is about 20 minutes from Hamilton, how about you? Tom b 66 : sorry DellaG : P & S are second alternates for the Championship Series. SoulzMate : Tom b 66, that's okay...have a good night! :) Sk8fan9664 : I live in Dundas, about 10 min from Hamilton SKHazen : So: who is everyone picking as last in Ladies / Mens at the Final? SGskate : Have you all discussed pairs? Dbtigger : I also think that Irina S. is totally over-rated in international competitions. RIVAPAT : who are in the ice dance finals--K&O, A&P ??? GGOm1 : last? GGOm1 : yagudin - he's in it right? SoulzMate : Ladies....Maria Butriskaya. Mens....Yagudin. SkateJoy : Michelle and then either Todd or Illya Athaena7 : well all it is time for all good little coaches to sign off, hehehe, have a good evening! Toepick220 : michelle1st, irinia2nd, and tonia3rd RIVAPAT : Yagudin,,,,Markova GoodyGa : Ladies- Lipinski... Mens- Yagudin SGskate : DBtigger, I agree, Irena is overated. What about Tara L? SKHazen : Last, SkateJoy? CHBRON : i agree with SkateJoy SGskate : Michelle 1st, I hope, then it's a toss up Dbtigger : I like Tara's spunk; weird double axel, though. SoulzMate : No way in the world Michelle will finish last! :D FSKFORCE : I think Irina is overrated too! Toepick220 : todd, illya, elvis SkateJoy : NO - Michelle FIRST ! SKHazen : I think Yagudin will suprise a few people -- maybe even from his own federation. Dbtigger : Todd and Michelle is my prediction. SkateJoy : sorry, I must of missed something ....... SKHazen : He has nothing to lose. Toepick220 : i think they should let her grow up a little bit more...like michelle did CHBRON : are the finals before or after worlds? GGOm1 : any thoughts on aleksei? SkateJoy : I agree Toepick..... SoulzMate : Tara is pretty darn good, especially when one considers her age. No fear. RIVAPAT : Todd or Ilya, Alexei, Elvis, Toepick220 : thanks skatejoy SkateJoy : you're welcome :) DellaG : Finals are before world's - found that out here earlier. SoulzMate : GGOm1, not that I can mention without getting into a lot of trouble. ;) KurtSkate : Exactly *what* is it everyine is seeing when they watch Irina, tha is so good? Toepick220 : that is the problem what happened to oksana can happen to her GoodyGa : I dont think that Todd is a shoe in for the title Toepick220 : we don't want her to burn out, we like the way she skates RIVAPAT : I like ALexei--I know you don't Kimber--ha, but if he lands him jumps he could be right SoulzMate : In Mens, I don't think anyone is a shoo in. I like Todd's chances, though. He's the one to beat. GGOm1 : Kimber, what is it that you hate about Aleksei? Spins and what else...? I'm just curious... RIVAPAT : in there! ANd he should have this program down pat--last year's SKHazen : GoodyGA (I've forgoten your name), but I do not think anyone is a shoe in. GGOm1 : I like Aleksei too CHBRON : i don't like alexsei's costumes, either FSKFORCE : I think Tara will win the nationals Toepick220 : why does he where gloves SoulzMate : This is my "be nice to Urmanov" week, so I'll abstain. :) SkateJoy : only if Michelle bombs, FSKFORCE Toepick220 : michelle will, tara second DellaG : One miss step in the short, and all bets are off. Shoe ins, do not happen anymore. Sk8fan9664 : Tara won't win nationals!! GoodyGa : SkHazen, Jen.. I remember you Steven CHBRON : Michelle would probably have to fall down a couple of times to lose nationals RIVAPAT : I am not a big fan of Alexei's outfits/gloves, but he can skate and with speed--just lacks RIVAPAT : consitency with jumps Toepick220 : yup..i agree SkateJoy : I like Tara for 2nd at Nationals though..... SKHazen : Jen (hope you remember me "well"); so how do you see Todd as a "shoe in"? DellaG : A mistake in the short, and a mistake in the long could cost Michelle any title, as long DellaG : as someone else skates clean. SoulzMate : The ice is slippery.....but I do think Michelle has an excellent chance of repeating at everything. RIVAPAT : Alexei is either really good or just there for the most part DellaG : Sure, a very excellent chance, but never a shoe in. MWisnie584 : Shae and Victor will win the dance, they are great! SoulzMate : <----never uses the word "shoo in" except in Ice Dance. :D Toepick220 : michelle over tara unless tara has some magnificent program GoodyGa : I dont think so- He has off nights, and I think that Aleksi can be very good on a "GOOD" nig SKHazen : My objectin with "shoe in" is that it leaves the impression that a skater really does not / SoulzMate : JOEROBERTO, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) Sk8fan9664 : I have to agree with you there MWISN SoulzMate : The topic tonight is "The Championship Series," so hop in whenever you are ready. :^) SKHazen : have to work for a win -- and they all do! DellaG : Can't agree on Shae and Victor. GGOm1 : I agree with you, rivapat, when he's on, he's ON, but when he's not... SoulzMate : The reason why Michelle wins so much is because she works so hard! MWisnie584 : Della, who do you think for dance Toepick220 : he is awful Sk8fan9664 : They have excellent programs this year, don't you think MWis Toepick220 : exactly SkateJoy : The Russian team ( can't pronounce their names ) will be first in dance..... Amellia B : I'd like B&K to win also but think they will come in 2nd MWisnie584 : I think there programs have gro Toepick220 : i think so to Sk8fan9664 : Why not B & K Della? SkateJoy : I do love B&K though..... Sk8fan9664 : Gro? RIVAPAT : ALexei is the defending champion in this event...so he can't be counted out DellaG : Not sure, but in dance, they have not gotten rid of the Russians. Sorry, but Dance just SKHazen : Krylova & Ovsianakov? DellaG : doesn't move from year to year. GoodyGa : What does everyone think about Elvid ths year? SoulzMate : Ckosh310, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) SoulzMate : The topic tonight is "The Championship Series," so hop in whenever you are ready. :^) MWisnie584 : I think there programs have great programs this year, they are so gracefull SkateJoy : yes, K&O....SKHazen...thanks Toepick220 : elvis needs work...my bet is on todd SoulzMate : Jen, usual Elvis, I guess. No opinion positive or negative. RIVAPAT : I like to watch B&K but I don't think they have what it takes to beat K&O SKHazen : Elvis' skating over the past few competitions has been moving in the right direction, / SKHazen : at least as to outcome. Toepick220 : yes it has Ckosh310 : Finally made here! Hello, everybody Toepick220 : hello ckosh Sk8fan9664 : Graceful should be there middle names. And what about that Hydro blading? SKHazen : Kimber: do you remember the great quote re Elvis? GoodyGa : I think that since 94 my opinon of him has gone down.......... Ckosh310 : hi Toepick SoulzMate : Steven, is this going to be a Galileocan moment? :D SkateJoy : mine too, GoodyGa SoulzMate : Uke Ent, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) SoulzMate : The topic tonight is "The Championship Series," so hop in whenever you are ready. :^) RIVAPAT : I love the hydroblading, but I do prefer more traditional or dramatic dances Uke Ent : The ice skating forum???? Toepick220 : me too SoulzMate : Oh.....you mean the one from the debate folder. "Elvis, you're a dude man." SKHazen : No: something like "turn the page, dude" RIVAPAT : as do the judges SoulzMate : That was great! :D DellaG : I have a question. To me the worse thing that can happen to a dance team is for one Sk8fan9664 : Too boring. I need something to keep me awake. Shae & Victor know how to entertain and Sk8fan9664 : compete at the same time MWisnie584 : hydro blading is them, I just love to watch them DellaG : of them to fall. Yet, this year, the falls have not lead to great reductions, and the teams Uke Ent : Does anybody in here ski? SKHazen : Actually, it was by Canadude. We could ask him, but he seems to have left. DellaG : have won. Why? SkateJoy : that WAS a good quote, wasn't it ?? Uke Ent : Soul....Do you ski? SoulzMate : B&K need two things to compete for first, IMHO....Speed and more difficult lifts. SoulzMate : Uke Ent, nope! I'm six months pregnant. :) RIVAPAT : speed is their main draw back SoulzMate : Uke Ent, If you check the schedule outside, you will note that the Ice Skating fans.... SoulzMate : Have this room reserved on Monday nights. We will be outta here by Midnite, EST. :^) Uke Ent : Soul.....so? Sk8fan9664 : They have the speed. Sk8fan9664 : Have you ever seen them live? They fly over the ice! SoulzMate : Sk8fan, they do have speed, but if you put them next to G&P or K&O, it's easy to tell not enough. RIVAPAT : compared to the teams below them yes, but not like the Russians--yes I have seen them in RIVAPAT : person 4 times SkateJoy : Where does everyone think Meno&Sands will place at Worlds ?? Toepick220 : i hope so MWisnie584 : I've seen them more than once, and they move, I am not a dance fan, but I really like them. SKHazen : What I'd like to see better of B&K is dance-like "togetherness." What their feet. SoulzMate : Joy.......going out on a limb....FIRST. :) Uke Ent : Soul.....Congratulations! SkateJoy : :) SKHazen : Oops. "Watch" their feet. SkateJoy : me too.... SoulzMate : Thanks, Uke Ent! :) DellaG : Skate Joy: Could be first. Sk8fan9664 : They are the ONLY dance pair that I will watch. The rest are too traditional, and don't GoodyGa : SkateJoy- 2nd SoulzMate : Lots of "two foot skating," Steven? Sk8fan9664 : want to take a chance exploring new areas SkateJoy : Ina & Dunjeon ???? RIVAPAT : Meno and Sand--2nd or 3rd JOEROBERTO : what do you think of the results from that pro/am in Japan Sk8fan9664 : 3rd SKHazen : Not so much that as lots of two individuals skating. CHBRON : I agree with RIVAPAT about m&s SkateJoy : ok, RIVAPAT, who first then ? FSKFORCE : Hey where is henry? Toepick220 : i think ros sumners gets robbed at all those comps DellaG : If they land their side by side triples, they could suprise a lot of people. SGskate : It is possible the M&S will come in first. Depends on everyone else GoodyGa : Della- I agree 100% CHBRON : at the japan/pro/am it was interesting that the amatuers all won, beating the pros SkateJoy : I agree, SGskate - pairs seems so tight this year..... SGskate : Roz doesn't do triples SkateJoy : even w/ the Russians in it..... SoulzMate : Toepick220, Roz Sumners won't be at the Championship Series either. :( JOEROBERTO : Did you see Nicole Came in 6th (last). I wish she got it it together. Amellia B : I think they can come in second if they do the triples DellaG : Same thing happened in the Ultmate four in Boston. SGskate : Getting back to the series, what were the predictions on the men? Sk8fan9664 : I think Mandy and Ingo will be first. They deserve it, and their programs are wonderful CHBRON : i suppose i should call them olympic eligibles, and not amatuers Sk8fan9664 : this season Toepick220 : well they are aren't techinically up to theametuers SoulzMate : RDavisVMD, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) SKHazen : I guess this is off topic -- but give Nicole credit. She *attempted* two triples in the / SoulzMate : Tom b 66, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) SoulzMate : The topic tonight is "The Championship Series," so hop in whenever you are ready. :^) CHBRON : i thought mandy & ingo should have won world's last year SKHazen : Honda Cup SP. That's progress! RIVAPAT : sorry I was checking something...I think Woetzel/Steur or Eltsove/Bushkov at the world will Sk8fan9664 : Me too CHBRON RIVAPAT : be first--speed and flow, speed and flow SoulzMate : Steven, I haven't given up 100% on Nicole....she's a lovely skater. SkateJoy : thanks RIVAPAT :) DellaG : Yes, it is progress, and she has a lot of time to continue to prepare for Nationals. SGskate : G&P have a new coach, also he is injured, nothing would surprise me, but I would like to se RIVAPAT : I agree about W&S-should have won last year SKHazen : I would agree that W&S are the ones to beat -- I just believe that M&S have it within / CHBRON : i don't think Nicole has enough time left for this year SGskate : see someone else win. JOEROBERTO : I think Elvis can only win if others make mistakes b/c if they all skate well he wont get SKHazen : themselves to beat them. Sk8fan9664 : Nicole is too rebellious, she eats up the media and fame and puts skating on the back burner Sk8fan9664 : to this JOEROBERTO : the artistic mark. So he doesn't control his own fate RIVAPAT : Elvis may have a hard time even medaling at this year's world's--Todd and Ilya are so strong Toepick220 : i don't think nicole is doing well..maybe next year she will have her act together CHBRON : i agree. joeroberto, elvis can't win it without mistakes by others DellaG : Elvis controls his own fate, if he would listen to the people who are trying to tell him how RIVAPAT : and consistent, and ALexei is very good when he is on and there are others too for Elvis SGskate : Elvis doesn't work on the artistry that the judges like DellaG : to win. RIVAPAT : to contend with SoulzMate : A lot of people will have a hard time medaling at this year's worlds....men's field is sooo deep. SKHazen : I would never rule out Elvis (and did not even after the SP at Edmonton). But it will not / Sk8fan9664 : IE she did the Nutcracker last year when she had an injury, and couldn't compete at national SKHazen : surprise me if he misses the podium even with 2 clean programs. JOEROBERTO : i Agree Rivpat. Kulik and Eldredge will definately medal. And Iam sure Alexi will do well RIVAPAT : Yes, if Elvis had played the game in Lillehammer he could have won, but until he does his Toepick220 : well she shouldn't have been doing the show SoulzMate : Sk8fan9664, that's old news....she's getting along swimmingly with Carlo Fassi and recovering from SoulzMate : Sk8fan9664, a very serious back injury. Give her a chance. RIVAPAT : artistic mark is always going to be lower than the other "big Guns" or unreliable Sk8fan9664 : Well I'm sure glad she doesn't compete for my country SoulzMate : Jpreibsome, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) Jpreibsome : Hi room SoulzMate : The topic tonight is "The Championship Series," so hop in whenever you are ready. :^) RIVAPAT : I actually think Ilya may be the one to beat in Nagano--he will another year to get stronger SoulzMate : MHalv439, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) GoodyGa : I am not that fond of Elvis, but I think that he was superior to Alexi in Lillehammer MWisnie584 : I agree sk8fan about Nicole, she is talented, but very inconsistent, and doesn't seem dedica Sk8fan9664 : I agree Goody GoodyGa : as much as I like Alexi Toepick220 : she is a great show skater..ifcompeting doesn't work out..there is always a show RIVAPAT : and develop even more artistically--he hasn't reached his peak whereas I think Todd has MHalv439 : Hi everyone! Are there any pro figure skaters here? SKHazen : Agree RIVA: Ilya is going to be serious competiton for everyone in Nagano. CHBRON : i think alexi's time has already come and gone. SGskate : Todd's peak is good and consistent RIVAPAT : Elvis lost the olympics on music selection/artistic FSKFORCE : But Ilya has been inconsistant in the past JOEROBERTO : I Think when nicole lands her jumps she is the most beautiful skater.I love the Evita openin Sk8fan9664 : Alexi should turn pro SoulzMate : It's after eleven........the topic is now "General Chat." Talk about anything skating. :) GoodyGa : I dont think that Nicole will ever get her act together. FSKFORCE : Last season it took one BAD performance for him to have a GREAT one! Sk8fan9664 : 1/6/97 11:02:29 PM Opening ÒChat Log 1/6/97#3Ó for recording. When she lands her jumps RIVAPAT : I like Alexei but I want him to turn pro and skate pairs with Katia Gordeeva! He is pair RIVAPAT : material! SGskate : Be back later, folks MHalv439 : Is Nicole Bobek skating again since her injury? Jpreibsome : I was hoping to get some info on Katarina tonight. is anyone up on what she is doing? SoulzMate : Ilia is VERY young....but adorable. CHBRON : Katia wouldn't have him Sk8fan9664 : She needs to get her priorities straight, then maybe she'll have a chance GoodyGa : What does everyone think about Natalia and that hockey player? MWisnie584 : I gree Rivapat about Elvis, he was definatly the winner in the OIympics GoodyGa : I say go for it! SKHazen : RIVA: if the Alexei you refer to is Urmanov, I disagree completely. I do not believe he is SKHazen : pairs material. SkateJoy : Go for it , Natalia !!!!! JOEROBERTO : I bet you since Nicole is not doing well now, she will withdraw from nationals SoulzMate : Becky, same problem.....Alexei can't spin....nowhere near Gordeeva's league. MHalv439 : I think it is weird to see Natalia with any other partner Sk8fan9664 : Probably, wouldn't want to ruin her "hero" reputation. Toepick220 : i think it is a bad idea MHalv439 : It will definitely be interesting to see where that new team will go competitively MWisnie584 : I like Nicoles skating, I just don't think she has it, like you said, priorities RIVAPAT : Spinning he could improve on but I think he could work--it has been bantered about, as odd Jpreibsome : Is Katarina touring with any particular show this season? RIVAPAT : asit seems GoodyGa : JOE- Now? I thought that Nicole was skating again. What happened? MHalv439 : What kind of injury does Nicole have? SoulzMate : RiskPa, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) CHBRON : I'm not sure they will compete - maybe just do shows SkateJoy : Katarina is doing "some" shows w/ SOI this year...... RiskPa : Has anyone here skied at Mt. Tremblant? JOEROBERTO : she is but she isn't doing well. SoulzMate : MHalv439, she's recovering from a serious back injury. SkateJoy : just a few dates though... SoulzMate : RiskPa, If you check the schedule outside, you will note that the Ice Skating fans.... RIVAPAT : But by the 97 pro season katia will be paired up with someone--its going to be hard for her SoulzMate : Have this room reserved on Monday nights. We will be outta here by Midnite, EST. :^) MHalv439 : Was it from a fall soulzmate? Toepick220 : so what did everyone think of the Canadian competition RiskPa : thank you Soul RIVAPAT : to find someone of her talents in pairs Ckosh310 : Did Natalia split with Artur with bad terms or good? She sounded a little bitter the other RIVAPAT : VERY BAD TERMS! Ckosh310 : night? SoulzMate : MHalv439, actually, I read that she got it on a rowing machine while working out. Ckosh310 : thanks, thought so SkateJoy : Canadian Pros ? Kurt's "Summertime" is AWESOME !!!!!!! RiskPa : Mt. Tremblant - any experience here? Jpreibsome : Is there any way to find out what venues she will be skating w/SOI? SoulzMate : RiskPa, If you check the schedule outside, you will note that the Ice Skating fans.... SoulzMate : Have this room reserved on Monday nights. We will be outta here by Midnite, EST. :^) Toepick220 : yes it was...he was awesome JOEROBERTO : I did not here it was bad terms. Elaborate MHalv439 : What a shame! I saw her in the Campbell Soup's Stars on Ice tour last summer and she was CHBRON : wasn't sure if Kurt would be able to beat that snake, though SkateJoy : I think I've watched it a dozen times or more & can't get enough of it..... MHalv439 : Great! Toepick220 : he and his new partner aren't very good either Ckosh310 : Kurt was unbelievable in the Canadian Pros-I haven't seen him skate better RIVAPAT : Actually Natalia didn't speak to Tamara Moskvina for a time either after the split--she sort MHalv439 : I love Kurt Browning! KurtSkate : Oh, I think Joy and I are going to have differing opinions on which program is better :-) SkateJoy : the "snake attack" was a hoot, wasn't it ?? Sk8fan9664 : Kurt is an amazing skater all round RIVAPAT : of sided with Artur about Natalia's lack of drive and committment and that she was out of SkateJoy : not better - just different, Laura :) KurtSkate : I like "Summertime" but I think "Serenade" is genius!! CHBRON : I think Artur is trying too hard to make his new partner too much like Natalia Jpreibsome : my wife says BrickHouse is still the best for Kurt. Sk8fan9664 : Brian Boitano doesn't stand a chance next to Kurt anymore Amellia B : That triple axel was great so was both programs RIVAPAT : shape--natalia was pushed to for and fooled them both and QUIT Ckosh310 : that's what I think, CHBRON MHalv439 : Kurt is the best overall, I think GoodyGa : I think that it was hysterical how she covered all the photos up of him....... SKHazen : Kimber, I'm cutting out. What is it, 98 and counting? RIVAPAT : YEs Artur should be trying to do new things w/Oksans K, not make her into natalia--It looks KurtSkate : I love both of them, I'm just a hopeless romantic...so I'm more biased towards "Serenade" :- CHBRON : didn't his new partner just get married to a non-skater Toepick220 : the gene kelly program SoulzMate : SKHazen, I believe it's now 397? RIVAPAT : like Oksana isn't as flexible either, but still gives it a whirl SkateJoy : "That's Entertainment" Toepick ?? Sk8fan9664 : That's Entertainment III and Brick House are still my favs MHalv439 : The gene kelley program was pure genius! SKHazen : depend on what your counting ;-). Night. SkateJoy : I will always love "Brickhouse" too......oh those pants....... MHalv439 : Anyone want to go talk about kurt in another room? SoulzMate : Nobody is as flexible as Natalia M. RIVAPAT : I love That's entertainment and Brickhouse and Here I am...I really don't SoulzMate : Nite, Steven! Toepick220 : yes it was....i like the new nat king cole one too. KurtSkate : I'm game...Joy you along for the ride? RIVAPAT : like Summertime-_I don't know why-_I didn't care for it live at Landover either SoulzMate : ChixLittle, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) ChixLittle : G'Evening all! SkateJoy : I love Here I Am !!!!! Lightening Crashes is one of my all time faves !! Toepick220 : he has such great facial expressions SkateJoy : Sure thing, Laura ! SoulzMate : <---loves "Here I Am." SkateJoy : where ? Toepick220 : that is really good too. RIVAPAT : Here I am is really really good LIVE CHBRON : gotta go now, I've enjoyed it, you all KurtSkate : Dunno...where? Sk8fan9664 : Lightning Crashes is also AMAZING, he doesn't do that one enough MHalv439 : Has anyone ever met a famous skater person to person? RIVAPAT : Landvoer--world pros ChixLittle : Phew...we just got out power back here in So.Cal....thought I would miss the conference! SoulzMate : Nite, CHBRON! Toepick220 : i don't like the hat trick one..too many quiks KurtSkate : I met Kurt last year :-) MHalv439 : You did, KurtSkate? Where and how? SoulzMate : You guys seem to have everything well in hand. Would anyone seriously mind if I cut out early? :) RIVAPAT : I've met Scott H.??, VIktor Petrenko, Denis Petrov and Katia Gordeeva--talked to in person SkateJoy : Hat Trick was best left in SOI, I think - NOT a competition piece, for sure ! KurtSkate : In Cincinnati, I was staying at the same hotel SoulzMate : Renna73, Welcome to the GS Ice Skating Forum! :^) RIVAPAT : and on phone a few times. 3 of these I had great experieces with--1 not so good ChixLittle : Go get your beauty sleep, Kimber ...you're sleeping for two! :) SkateJoy : Take it easy, Kimber !! Have a good night...:) MHalv439 : What was he like? Toepick220 : definitely not competitive RIVAPAT : by kimber Renna73 : Anyone ski the Huneter area? KurtSkate : I also got to speak to Paul Wylie...very nice guy!! Toepick220 : bye kimber KurtSkate : Bye Kimber :-) SoulzMate : If anyone comes in and starts trouble, just go to Keyword: GUIDEPAGER. Have a good night! :) Sk8fan9664 : Bye Kimber GoodyGa : Bye Kimber............ Have a good night :-) 1/6/97 11:11:15 PM Closing Log file.